Legislature(1997 - 1998)

04/01/1998 01:15 PM House TRA

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HB 278 - MARINE MOTOR FUEL TAX                                                 
                                                                               
Number 0181                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS announced HB 278, "An Act imposing a reporting               
requirement on certain sales, transfers, and consumption or uses of            
motor fuel, increasing the motor fuel tax on motor fuel used in and            
on watercraft, and authorizing payment of a portion of that tax as             
refunds to municipalities; and providing for an effective date," is            
before the committee.                                                          
                                                                               
Number 0186                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE CARL MOSES, Alaska State Legislature, presented HB
278.  He stated, "HB 278 is almost identical to a bill we passed a             
couple years ago, and subsequently the Governor, through probably              
poor information, vetoed.  It's badly needed, and I don't consider             
it a tax, I consider it a user fee.  It's designed to help maintain            
and build boat harbors that the state badly needs.  It never seems             
that we get enough money for boat harbors every year.  Alone in my             
district, we have eight boat harbors and a various status of them              
being built, being surveyed, and onto three different projects or              
have federal money available now.  It's probably still over 50                 
percent of it is collected in my district, and I maintain over 50              
percent of it is paid by nonresident interest.  In fact I feel so              
strongly that it's needed, I don't mind imposing the user-fee, 50              
percent of it which is my constituents.  That little raise cost me             
$4.5 million, the total we take in now, the five-cent a gallon tax             
has been varying from $8 million to $9 million.  I might say that              
at the present five-cent a gallon tax, in comparison to the overall            
cost of fuel to a fisherman or the vessel operator, it's about one-            
fifth of the overall cost that it was 30 years ago.  In other                  
words, they're paying less in percentage of their overall cost                 
today in a tax, it's by one-fifth of what they paid 30-40 years ago            
because the price has increased, but the tax has remained the                  
same."                                                                         
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE MOSES stated, "It's estimated, two years ago, that              
our deferred maintenance on boat harbors was $250 million, that's              
probably more like $350 million or $400 million today.  So, that is            
a considerable portion of our deferred maintenance that we're faced            
with.  And, of course, that's mainly because we haven't budgeted               
for it.  I think the user-fee, as I call it, is highly justified.              
When I was first in the Legislature in 1965, it was standard                   
practice to appropriate all the money that was taken in with the               
marine fuel tax to boats and harbors.  And, that's when a lot of               
money was provided for boat harbors.  We happen to be at the end of            
the line, we only have two actual boat harbors that are fully                  
fledged boat harbors and there isn't any pleasure craft in any of              
them.  Those two communities now are doubling the size of their                
boat harbors, and the federal money is available.  In those two                
communities, and I don't mind mentioning at Sand Point and King                
Cove.  They have taken over full title and maintenance to their                
boat harbors.  That speaks well for them, but they need help to                
double the size of theirs.  And, of course, you won't see any                  
yachts or pleasure craft in their boat harbors, they're all fishing            
vessels.  But they need to double the size because there is a long             
waiting list for additional moorage."                                          
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY said, as he understands it, Representative              
Moses wants to refund part of this tax, or all the tax to the                  
municipalities.  He asked would that be through revenue sharing.               
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE MOSES replied they would have to come up with a                 
specific plan for a boat harbor facility, or a maintenance plan,               
which is approved by the Department of Transportation and Public               
Facilities (DOT/PF).                                                           
                                                                               
Number 0232                                                                    
                                                                               
BRYCE EDGEMON, Legislative Assistant to Representative Moses,                  
pointed out representatives from the Department of Revenue and                 
DOT/PF are present and can address that in more detail.                        
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY asked how do you get around the dedication              
of funds, would it have to go into the general fund and then be                
allocated to this?                                                             
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE MOSES replied yes.                                              
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY asked why did the Governor veto the previous            
legislation.                                                                   
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE MOSES stated he is maintaining the Governor must                
have had poor information or advice.  He stressed that it was badly            
needed then and gets worse every year.  He said he has no qualms               
about changing it.  Representative Moses added that he even thought            
of having a matching deal, if they raised so much money on a two-              
cent a gallon tax, locally through a special ordinance or sales                
tax, to having something there where the State would match it.                 
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE MOSES said he believes one way to get around the                
dedicated tax, is where it states that the Legislature "may."  He              
pointed out that back in the 60's it was understood that the amount            
of taxes collected will go back toward boats and harbors, but we               
slipped away from that and now less than half of it goes to that               
purpose.  He stressed that the situation gets worse every year.                
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS remarked, but we are paying for it today.                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE MOSES replied that's correct.                                   
                                                                               
Number 0246                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON agreed that the current nickel a gallon was              
pledged to the improvements of our ports and harbors years back.               
He said, "I don't know how we're going to do it, because I know we             
can't go into dedicated funding.  But that would be a major step in            
the right direction if we could just get the Legislature back to               
their pledge of putting that money back into the ports and harbors.            
That's where it's collected and that's what it was for.  And I know            
were just using it for wherever we want to.  I also know that the              
condition on a statewide basis of our ports and harbors weren't                
additional funding consideration.  I applaud your bringing this                
forward."                                                                      
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON asked Representative Moses, in our statute               
this is clearly separated from all other fuel taxes, isn't it.                 
This has no other application except for the marine motor fuel tax.            
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE MOSES replied that's correct.                                   
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON asked how does that flow into the general                
fund, where is it collected.                                                   
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE MOSES replied on a wholesale level from the                     
distributors.                                                                  
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS said the committee will be working on this and               
hopefully will get help from the department to make it work for                
everyone.                                                                      
                                                                               
Number 0263                                                                    
                                                                               
LARRY MEYERS, Director, Income and Excise Audit Division,                      
Department of Revenue, came before the committee.  He reiterated               
that HB 278 raises the tax on motor fuel from a nickel a gallon to             
eight cents.  He explained the Department of Revenue will be the               
one responsible for collecting it.  Currently these motor fuel                 
returns are filed on a monthly basis and the provision of this bill            
requires the department to track where the motor fuel is sold or               
eventually used.  He indicated that's something that' unique in the            
provision.  Generally, as was mentioned earlier, the department                
collects it once at the wholesale level and is not concerned as to             
where it ends up being used.                                                   
                                                                               
MR. MEYERS noted additional reporting requirements will be required            
on the wholesale, eventually the user.  If there are resales, the              
department will have to track it through the system as far as how              
it's going to be accounted for.  Addition paper work will also be              
required by the user as well as the Department of Revenue.                     
                                                                               
MR. MEYERS said they believe they can make it work.  He reiterated             
that there will be additional reporting requirements.  The bill                
also provides for a new reporting section that talks about exempt              
users, that's something that's unique now, the department hasn't               
dealt with that in the past.  Mr. Meyers said they think it would              
be cumbersome.  The people filing the reports on a monthly basis               
would have to list whom they sold to on an individual basis for                
exemptions.  The Department hasn't gone into that much detail in               
the past and they don't know if that's the direction they we want              
to go in right now, they think that could be a problem.  Over all,             
other than determining the sites of where the money is going to be             
allocated back, this is something that's doable.  He concluded that            
they're just trying to find a way that makes it most convenient for            
both the department and the taxpayer.                                          
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON asked what percentage of the marine fuel tax             
comes from, say the large fisheries' operation out of Dutch Harbor.            
Are the larger ships, Seattle-based ships, paying much of the tax?             
                                                                               
MR. MEYERS responded he doesn't have that information.  He                     
explained it generally comes in at the wholesale level and is                  
disbursed throughout the state.  If it happens to be consumed at               
the locality of where the wholesaler was, then that would be the               
department's only estimate.                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON said because we do collect it from the                   
wholesaler.                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. MEYERS replied that's correct.                                             
                                                                               
Number 0289                                                                    
                                                                               
DENNIS POSHARD, Legislative Liaison, Office of the Commissioner,               
Department of Transportation and Public Facilities, came before the            
committee.  He stated DOT/PF has taken a neutral position on HB
278.  The department is supportive of a means of funding harbors               
and thinks this is worth looking into.  He encouraged the committee            
to consider tieing a transfer of the facility ownership in with the            
funding, or the refund of the fuel tax, that could possibly reduce             
the State's maintenance operations burden as DOT/PF is responsible             
for the maintenance and operations and own 79 out of the 95 ports              
and harbors in the state.                                                      
                                                                               
MR. POSHARD also suggested another consideration might be taking a             
look at the allocating of fuel tax revenues to the harbor                      
facilities that they're prorated in proportion to other things like            
replacement values of the facility, the age of the facility, and               
other considerations.  He said the department is looking at need               
versus just usage of the fuel and the allocation methods.  He                  
reiterated they're neutral on the bill and thinks there's other                
considerations the committee might want to look at.                            
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS asked Mr. Poshard if he knows why it was vetoed              
a few years ago.                                                               
                                                                               
MR. POSHARD said he believes the Governor vetoed the bill because              
there was a long-range financial planning commission looking at                
taxes as a whole and the report hadn't come out yet.  He indicated             
the Governor wanted to look at any new taxes as part of the                    
comprehensive plan which was stated clearly in his veto letter of              
June 30, 1995.                                                                 
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS asked DOT/PF to work with his office on the                  
suggested changes.                                                             
                                                                               
MR. POSHARD agreed to.                                                         
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS asked if anyone else wanted to testify.                      
                                                                               
Number 0314                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS announced HB 278 will be held for further                    
consideration.                                                                 
                                                                               

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